Once again, you changed the premise! Once again, 15% of pilots here

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Author: actually voted for the union! Date: 1/18/2024 11:17:14 AM +0/-0 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

You want to know if the union is still wanted?? Have a recertification vote! Then, you will find out for sure.

But, of those on the pilot seniority list currently, <15% were here when there was a vote to unionize. The rest didn't ever vote to have a union!

Paint it what you want, but those are simple facts!

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Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? (NT) +0/-1 Or is it fixed for the duration of CBA? 1/17/2024 8:50:44 AM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? +0/-1 go 1/17/2024 10:13:22 AM

if I hire on two years from now, what will the the starting pay be (NT) +0/-0 compared to now?? the same? 1/17/2024 10:18:26 AM

if I hire on two years from now, what will the the starting pay be +0/-0 you will never work there 1/17/2024 10:20:43 AM

if I hire on two years from now, what will the the starting pay be +0/-0 wut will the pay be like 1/17/2024 11:37:57 AM

Not familiar with a rhetorical question, are you? (NT) +0/-0 lol, lol, lol 1/17/2024 1:22:33 PM

Not familiar with a rhetorical question, are you? +0/-0 in other words 1/17/2024 2:06:27 PM

Not if the starting salary is out-dated and below instustry (NT) +0/-0 standards! You are right abou that! 1/17/2024 1:29:34 PM

It is not addressed +1/-1 Just Me Again 1/17/2024 10:21:05 AM

It is very clear in the CBA what step you can start (NT) +0/-1 based on experience 1/17/2024 11:38:49 AM

Agree, but that wasn't the question (NT) +1/-0 Just Me Again 1/17/2024 12:29:59 PM

It doesn't answer the question though! Does the starting pay increase each (NT) +0/-0 year, or remain constant?? 1/17/2024 1:21:32 PM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? +0/-0 Negotiate what you are worth. 1/17/2024 1:40:43 PM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? +0/-0 what�s funny is 1/17/2024 7:50:57 PM

What's even funnier is the union advocating for new hires to earn (NT) +2/-0 more than their more senior members! 1/17/2024 9:37:30 PM

What's even funnier is the union advocating for new hires to earn +0/-2 Then just leave and get 1/17/2024 11:28:08 PM

Stop propping the "Union" like it's some gift from heaven (NT) +0/-0 It actually hurts pilot more than helps 1/18/2024 7:05:23 AM

Stop propping the "Union" like it's some gift from heaven +2/-0 being a union company 1/18/2024 8:46:36 AM

Being a union company, that 15% of those there voted for! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 1/18/2024 9:12:33 AM

70% vote yes for the contract. If you don�t speak you don�t matter when +0/-1 It comes to �voting� 1/18/2024 9:29:58 AM

70% approval?? Nonsense! More like 52.7% voted to approve! +0/-0 62% of 85% is 52.7% 1/18/2024 11:12:29 AM

70% approval?? Nonsense! More like 52.7% voted to approve! +0/-0 you don�t know how those 250 1/18/2024 11:27:00 AM

Nor do you. Doesn't matter. Fact: only 51% of the pilots (NT) +0/-0 voted for it! 1/18/2024 4:47:22 PM

70% approval?? Nonsense! More like 52.7% voted to approve! +0/-0 uh 1/18/2024 12:32:24 PM

Yes you changed the premise by saying there was over 70% approval +0/-0 No their wasn't! It barely passed! 1/18/2024 4:54:42 PM

Yes you changed the premise by saying there was over 70% approval +0/-0 What does that even mean 1/18/2024 10:38:29 PM

It means, in 6 years somone hiring on will be making the same as someone +0/-0 that's been here for 6 years!! 1/19/2024 3:57:38 PM

It means, in 6 years somone hiring on will be making the same as someone +0/-0 I always find it amusing when 1/20/2024 4:37:30 AM

Hey moron, it about those here now not progressing above (NT) +0/-0 "new hire" status! 1/20/2024 9:37:21 AM

Hey moron, it about those here now not progressing above +0/-0 ever hear of 1/20/2024 9:46:29 AM

It negotiated lower pay for it members moving up the seniority +0/-0 list, dum-dum! 1/20/2024 9:53:19 AM

It negotiated lower pay for it members moving up the seniority +0/-0 say wut 1/20/2024 10:03:17 AM

It negotiated lower pay for it members moving up the seniority +0/-0 what's funny is 1/20/2024 10:06:38 AM

I want you to reward longevity, not those who aren't even here yet! +0/-0 The resons new-hire pay goes up... 1/20/2024 1:40:50 PM

It negotiated lower pay for it members moving up the seniority +0/-0 logic 1/20/2024 10:09:27 AM

You've made it so pilots who aren't even working for the company are also (NT) +0/-0 getting 4% raises on their new-hire pay 1/20/2024 1:36:48 PM

You've made it so pilots who aren't even working for the company are also +0/-0 you don't get a pay raise 1/20/2024 1:57:34 PM

Sure you do! 4% annually it seems. Because I'll start where a new-hire +0/-0 today is being paid! 1/20/2024 2:13:05 PM

Apparently you do! If I don't hire on today, my starting salary grows by (NT) +0/-0 4% a year until I do hire on! 1/21/2024 11:41:57 AM

Apparently you do! If I don't hire on today, my starting salary grows by +0/-0 lol 1/21/2024 11:45:13 AM

Apparently you do! If I don't hire on today, my starting salary grows by +0/-0 lol 1/21/2024 11:53:24 AM

It went up at the same rate as someone hiring on today! (NT) +0/-0 5 years from now, he's no better off 1/21/2024 12:04:14 PM

It went up at the same rate as someone hiring on today! +0/-0 Then leave 1/21/2024 12:20:54 PM

You keep running from the issue! No pay raises for seniority! (NT) +0/-0 Just keeping up with the new hires 1/21/2024 2:32:41 PM

You keep running from the issue! No pay raises for seniority! +0/-0 In 5 years you'll be step E 1/21/2024 2:39:40 PM

So, step A remains constant for the next 6 years? (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 1/23/2024 8:55:54 AM

So, step A remains constant for the next 6 years? (NT) +0/-0 Would you like me to link the CBA? 1/23/2024 1:18:06 PM

You don't need to! Every year, pilot's salaries grow by 4%, & so too does +0/-0 new-hire starting pay! so, ... 1/23/2024 3:51:53 PM

You keep running from the issue! No pay raises for seniority! +0/-0 I'm not concerned 1/21/2024 3:00:42 PM

You keep running from the issue! No pay raises for seniority! +0/-0 You don't understand 1/21/2024 3:57:15 PM

Once again, you changed the premise! Once again, 15% of pilots here +0/-0 actually voted for the union! 1/18/2024 11:17:14 AM

You voted to have a Union when Voluntarily Accepted a position at a (NT) +1/-0 Company with a Union!! Free to leave 1/18/2024 12:25:38 PM

No, it was FORCED upon me when I got hired using all MY OWN +0/-0 qualifications and experience! 1/18/2024 1:30:31 PM

You chose to work at a union company and knew this before you took the job (NT) +0/-0 Thank you for choosing to be UNION! 1/18/2024 4:25:49 PM

Again, you act like the union owns the hiring process +0/-0 You are simply leeches! 1/18/2024 4:28:59 PM

You own the hiring process. You CHOSE a Union Shop!! Thanks (NT) +0/-0 For supporting Unions! 1/19/2024 2:00:54 PM

Arrogance is the union's most prominent attribute! (NT) +0/-0 Brazen arrogance! 1/19/2024 5:47:00 PM

HUMILITY is not yours. Considering you now have justified a Union by (NT) +0/-0 JOINING A UNION SHOP!! 1/19/2024 11:28:56 PM

No, I justified working for my employer even if they are being (NT) +0/-0 infested with leeches 1/20/2024 8:45:01 AM

Pay has nothing to do with me staying where I am. Location was #1 (NT) +0/-0 Job satisfaction #2 1/18/2024 4:49:42 PM

Being a union company, that 15% of those there voted for! +0/-0 yeah and at some point 1/18/2024 11:01:02 AM

So what? Well, you can't say that a majority of the pilots voted in the (NT) +0/-0 union (like you do). Your lying! 1/18/2024 4:06:31 PM

You joining a Union shop only proves Union companies better even for YOU!! (NT) +0/-0 Thanks for supporting unions 1/18/2024 4:28:12 PM

Yeah, tell the check airmen that used car sales pitch again (NT) +0/-0 and see their nonverbal responses 1/18/2024 4:45:44 PM

Yeah, tell the check airmen that used car sales pitch again +1/-0 Now wait a second 1/18/2024 10:40:16 PM

The Check Airmen who led astray been a power hunger mule to local 108 (NT) +0/-0 and screwed over the whole group 1/18/2024 10:56:13 PM

CheckAirmen were screwed over from within by opeiu (NT) +0/-0 then screwed by local 108 1/18/2024 10:58:21 PM

There were folks trying to warn them before they voted in that union! (NT) +0/-0 Alas.... 1/19/2024 7:09:37 AM

Even 109 warned us to stay away from 108 and OPEIU (NT) +1/-0 Here we are. No where 1/19/2024 7:33:11 AM

109 is OPEIU, Gomer! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 1/19/2024 2:58:50 PM

109 is seeking self representation OUT of OPEIU +0/-0 Watch and See! 1/19/2024 11:30:33 PM

Meanwhile, keep sending us your hard earned labored money (NT) +0/-0 we need it to have planning meetings 1/22/2024 10:06:36 AM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? +0/-1 Goes up. 1/19/2024 1:33:05 PM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? +1/-0 Then Down 1/19/2024 2:01:33 PM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? (NT) +0/-0 Then Left 1/19/2024 11:30:50 PM

Does AMC new-hire's starting payscale increase annually?? +0/-0 Then right 1/23/2024 10:26:03 AM